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RE: How to think correctly? - AbsoluteBeginner - 07-24-2024
(07-23-2024, 08:12 PM)litdev Wrote: Interesting for beginners - maybe the boxes, I don't know.
If you want to learn to program, then the text one 100% every time, no question.
That's one of the main things that attracted me to Small Basic, maybe also why Scratch is very popular and SB isn't.
For me it's about learning to progam, algorithms, making it do what you want the most efficient way, sorry.
(translated by Google translator)
Good morning everybody.
Dear LitDev,
I have two reasons for continuing this discussion.
1) The first reason is the fact that when you START writing a text, you ALREADY KNOW the idea that you are going to express in this text. But it’s much easier to see an idea in a diagram than in continuous text.
2) The second reason is the fact that we hope to help not only people who want to become programmers. We all need SMART PEOPLE even more! The diagram demonstrates the ALGORITHM well. The text of the code does a good job of explaining to the computer what it should do.
A computer program contains objects that have properties, methods, and connections among themselves.
The world around us contains objects that have properties, methods and connections among themselves.
A diagram greatly facilitates the construction of a structure that contains interconnected objects. A person who can create the structure of a computer program using a diagram will also be able to create structures that consist of physical objects in the world around us.
I'm not saying this because it just seems that way to me.
You program computers.
I have spent my entire professional life programming the environment around us. ( I worked as an industrial equipment adjuster )
Like you, I have created and configured structures consisting of a wide variety of objects.
Naturally, I was forced to create my structures WITHOUT WRITING CODE.
That is why I ask you to allow me to share here my experience of using diagrams to empower the human Mind.
RE: How to think correctly? - z-s - 07-24-2024
after listening your story i will say CONTINUE IT
RE: How to think correctly? - AbsoluteBeginner - 07-24-2024
Hello, Z-S
You said a lot of right things to make it easy for people to PROGRAM.
I'm trying to create a lightweight tool to help people THINK.
I'm not suggesting that you REPLACE writing code with drawing diagrams.
I propose to give people an ADDITIONAL TOOL to achieve their goals.
(Z-S, I assure you that your opinion about the use of diagrams is wrong. I intend to demonstrate this to you
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RE: How to think correctly? - AbsoluteBeginner - 07-24-2024
(07-24-2024, 08:19 AM)z-s Wrote: after listening your story i will say CONTINUE IT
It would be very good if one of you will offer the program that would need to be created as an example in Small BASIC using a Diagram.
RE: How to think correctly? - jrmrhrb00 - 07-24-2024
Z-S and AB,
In Small Basic-Prime you already have diagram capability with the flow chart tool that makes writing a program easier after the flow chart is laid out. I think this could actually be advanced to where the program could be automatically created from the flow chart flow.
JR
RE: How to think correctly? - z-s - 07-24-2024
(07-23-2024, 04:17 PM)z-s Wrote: In Our SB-Prime There Is Function Of Seeing Code Into Diagrams We Would Have To Reverse It.I Also Said That Earlier.
RE: How to think correctly? - AbsoluteBeginner - 07-24-2024
(07-24-2024, 01:07 PM)jrmrhrb00 Wrote: Z-S and AB,
In Small Basic-Prime you already have diagram capability with the flow chart tool that makes writing a program easier after the flow chart is laid out. I think this could actually be advanced to where the program could be automatically created from the flow chart flow.
JR
No guys. I suggest using a completely different type of chart.
Just come up with an example program you want me to demonstrate and I will explain everything to you in detail.
RE: How to think correctly? - litdev - 07-24-2024
OK, my ANN RGB->HSL program QWVK484.000
RE: How to think correctly? - z-s - 07-24-2024
I Am Working On The Sample Program AB.
RE: How to think correctly? - AbsoluteBeginner - 07-24-2024
(07-24-2024, 03:06 PM)litdev Wrote: OK, my ANN RGB->HSL program QWVK484.000
I thought that you would propose a PROBLEM, to solve which you need to create a new program. I would then demonstrate exactly the PROCESS OF PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT using a diagram.
But, if you want, I can create a diagram of a ready-made program to compare in what form it is more convenient to study the logic of the program.